Is there a way to find out how many Lt's the job has promoted on average by year. If i remember, they promoted like 45 in march and that's it so far for 2012. If we knew about how many they make a year we might have a better idea of how close they are to needing Lt's
They are down 22 LT's and there is a BMOC in so there will be promotions at the end of the month. From what everyone is saying, they usually take July off, so if they're going to promote LT's to fill the -22 at the end of the month, this thing has to be out by next Friday. If its not out by next Friday, then I guess the job can go a couple of months with being negative on LT's.
averages don't matter, vacancies do. There are 1753 budgeted. We were down 22 lieutenants last time anyone checked.
-- Edited by Ike on Wednesday 6th of June 2012 10:02:53 PM
Yes I understand vacancies give u an idea of how many they need. What I'm saying is, instead of following each Lt that retires, let's see how many Lt's get promoted each year, as a generalization. Obviously it's not exact but we are in June and they've only made 45 Lt's. That seems low.
I think they promoted 700 off the 2006 list. That's an average of 175 lts a year for the four year span. Keeping in mind that was through all the economic turmoil, only 70 Lt's so far this year seems really low.
755 were promoted off of 2006, I believe the average was about 170 a year. But that won't be a good indicator because it boils down to vacancies. And many factors effect vacancies, captains promotions, economy, morale, and the biggest factor in my opinion is the huge safe city safe street classes that were hired in the early 90s. Law of averages will work in our favor. More people eligible to retire will equal more vacancies. Sure some will stay but many will leave.
755 were promoted off of 2006, I believe the average was about 170 a year. But that won't be a good indicator because it boils down to vacancies. And many factors effect vacancies, captains promotions, economy, morale, and the biggest factor in my opinion is the huge safe city safe street classes that were hired in the early 90s. Law of averages will work in our favor. More people eligible to retire will equal more vacancies. Sure some will stay but many will leave.
There's truth in numbers, you can follow each lt that retires one by one of you want, but I'm looking at the bigger picture. 175 a year seems about right. Can I ban you?
What I'm saying is the avg of lieuts a year from 2006 - 12 will be diff than 2012 - 2016. There will be more eligible to retire in the latter 4 year block because of huge classes that were hired. But then there is the economy factor, I'f we double dip into another recession or worse depression some of us might be in trouble depending in size of list. The housing market is sure to take another plunge when millions of foreclosure proceedings begin again once the courts settle w the banks. It could get ugly.
What I'm saying is the avg of lieuts a year from 2006 - 12 will be diff than 2012 - 2016. There will be more eligible to retire in the latter 4 year block because of huge classes that were hired. But then there is the economy factor, I'f we double dip into another recession or worse depression some of us might be in trouble depending in size of list. The housing market is sure to take another plunge when millions of foreclosure proceedings begin again once the courts settle w the banks. It could get ugly.
...and don't forget El Nino. That's really going to screw sh1t up.
What I'm saying is the avg of lieuts a year from 2006 - 12 will be diff than 2012 - 2016. There will be more eligible to retire in the latter 4 year block because of huge classes that were hired. But then there is the economy factor, I'f we double dip into another recession or worse depression some of us might be in trouble depending in size of list. The housing market is sure to take another plunge when millions of foreclosure proceedings begin again once the courts settle w the banks. It could get ugly.
